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Collection, Preservation and Display of Old Lawn Mowers

The Budding Foundation Mower weekend for Charity 16th/17th Aug

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A comprehensive collection of mowers will be on display at....

Mid Sussex Golf Club, Spatham Lane,Ditchling,East Sussex BN6 8XJ over the weekend of 16th & 17th August..

Together with our marquee displaying the story of the Lawns creation and the Mowers evolution. Colin Stones Budding replica will also be on display together with some other gems that have not yet had an outing!!!

Club committee members will be on hand to answer any questions from 9 till 5 both days.

The Golf Club welcomes all to take advantage of the refreshment facilities,bar,restaurant etc, with a Sunday carvery subject to booking.

The mowers will be displayed on the main lawns, amidst the fantastic now renowned flower beds & borders. Plant sales also available.

FREE entry but a charity donation appreciated.

Any queries contact clive@thebuddingfoundation

hdtrust Sun, 10/08/2014

I read your web site with intrigue.

A valiant idea!

My questions are,how can you slap a copy write on articles which are not yours and have been in the public domain for over 80 years?

Further we all know you have a fascination regarding Budding which is interesting but why twist 2 totally different subjects together?

In your web site you state that Collin Stones 'Budding' is the one commissioned for Channel 4 programme. This is not the case Channel 4 still own that model. Colin Stones plus 3 other examples were commissioned to be made by Mr Brian Raddam.

Finally as a registered charity,The web site reads that you purchase and will except donations as lawn mowers.

So do you own your mower collection in your own right, or are they owned by the charity, and if that is the case what percentage of all donations given actually go to help these young people? (This will effect Gift aid)

 

Clive1997 Mon, 11/08/2014

Hi Andrew

Thanks for your interest in the charity, I have hopefully answered your questions below, and to make it easier for other forum visitors to understand I have repeated them in bold type, with answers underneath each........

My questions are, how can you slap a copy write on articles which are not yours and have been in the public domain for over 80 years?

Regarding copyright, I do not have legal copyright to the majority of images on the website & the word alone is meaningless. As you state the majority of images are in the public domain anyway. It’s simply there to deter those people who steal images from websites without permission. The legalities of internet images are extremely complex and legislation will probably never be effective. When I spend time & money with research & display an image for public interest I do not feel someone should just randomly help themselves to it. If anyone asks I am always happy to consider supplying a copy of images I have obtained, or where they may possibly find them.

I could perhaps just print ‘Hands Off ‘but copyright seems to be more polite and understandable.

To save the charity expenses I do all the website bits myself, but hopefully in the future we may have this done professionally & no doubt any images can then be protected in other ways.

 

Further we all know you have a fascination regarding Budding which is interesting but why twist 2 totally different subjects together?

 

I have a great deal of energy & enthusiasm in the area of Budding, Mowers, and History etc so by linking my passion to fund-raising was an obvious choice. I have friends who are passionate at doing Triathlons, Marathons, Ballooning & other hobbies where they raise money for charity doing something they enjoy. Look at Comic Relief for example what connection is their between comedy & reducing world poverty? the twist as you call it seems to work as they have raised around 950m to date.

 

In your web site you state that Collin Stones 'Budding' is the one commissioned for Channel 4 programme. This is not the case Channel 4 still own that model. Colin Stones plus 3 other examples were commissioned to be made by Mr Brian Raddam.

Accept your point with hindsight I perhaps should have included the words ‘identical to the Channel 4 commissioned mower etc etc’ but has it affected anyone? I’m sure CH4 are happy with the additional mention. In publicity for future events I will be happy to amend the wording accordingly.

Finally as a registered charity, the web site reads that you purchase and will except donations as lawn mowers.

So do you own your mower collection in your own right, or are they owned by the charity, and if that is the case what percentage of all donations given actually go to help these young people? (This will effect Gift aid)

The charity was set up with a great deal of guidance from the Charities Commission.

For the foreseeable future all donations received will be directed to our primary objectives, ie young people. Funds recently raised are going to help students fund apprenticeships at local colleges, including Horticulture, equipment for under tens football team, a ramp for a brain damaged 5yr old to be able to leave the house in his wheelchair for the school bus, rather than being carried. We also support a local special needs school.

Looking to the future it is envisaged that at some stage my collection will be donated to the charity for future preservation, no doubt when my knees give in! at the present time they are made available for promotion & fund raising on a free loan basis. Mowers are donated and we seek the agreement of the donor that they may be sold, with the proceeds being used for the charities primary objectives.

We are well acquainted with gift aid, one of our trustees being involved in accountancy & tax consultancy. Gift aid is only collected on personal cash donations from individuals in accordance with the guidelines, and then processed by our accountants. Proceeds from the sale of an item donated would not attract gift aid. Obviously we will take advantage of GASDS when we qualify which I am told will be 2 years after registration, subject to some additional criteria.

As to the creation of a permanent memorial to Budding by way of a Museum/Heritage centre, we are in talks with corporate sponsors and we are looking for this to be funded direct by them and not through donations.

 

Let me run an idea past you, one of our most successful fundraisers is the lawnmower push, how about we approach Bonhams to see if you could enter the 1902 Ransomes in the London to Brighton Veteran car run as a bit of fun for our charity. Or another of the many vintage London to Brighton runs that take place.

I envisage engaging a group of guys from the armed forces/ fire brigade etc, ie fit blokes not like us! To be running/walking with us unrolling lengths of astro turf in front of the mower for protection. Probably too late for this year, but what about 2015? What is its mph? There’s a challenge for you.

Cheers

Clive

 

 

hdtrust Wed, 13/08/2014

Dear Clive,

Thank you for your answers, I just feel that your last 2 paragraphs are at best facetious, and at worst a lack of understanding the Preservation movement for our history.

All I am asking with interest is about your Foundation.I think it is about time that members who sit on the Old Lawn Mower Club committee are transparent and are there to help the club name.There are other shining examples of Committee members who separate their charity work from the Club, namely our Treasurer.

As you know we sat on the committee for a few years trying to make things more fairer for all the grass root members, what we don't need in this club is a resemblance to George Orwell 1984!

If you wish to make lots of money then I suggest you sell your collection via auction perhaps at MK, the proceeds can then go to your chosen charity.

And before you ask, I do support many charities but keep it separate to The Hall & Duck Trust.